πŸŽ™ 67. 7 New Perspectives to Thrive (rather than survive) in Corporate America

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Episode Published on March 12, 2024

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This episode is about taking accountability for your experience as a human being, that is also an employee or someone who works for a living. I kind of go off on a tangent about leadership and conscious leadership at the beginning, because I realize that working conditions are not always optimal and we can't just use positivity to get ourselves out of that. So hold tight through the tangent. I promise the episode is worth it. 

I bring to you today seven mindset shifts or new perspectives to thrive rather than just survive in your nine to five. Lots of rhyming. 

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I believe that working can be one of the most spiritual paths that we walk, whether that work is turning your passion into a business or sitting behind a desk for eight hours a day or anywhere beyond and in between. And yet we often take the way in which we show up to work for granted, even though it's where we spend the majority of our time. 

Here on The Spiritual 9–5 Podcast, we talk about that. We talk about entrepreneurship, we talk about the 9 to 5, we talk about what it's like to be multi-passionate, and talented, and inspired, and also utterly demotivated. 

We are here to support you in your work, whether your work is sacred to you, or just something that you do to get by. We are here to help you see and know yourself a little bit deeper, and to inspire you to show up no matter what it is that you find.

I'm your host, Marie Groover, and like you I am as multi-passionate as they come. I'm the founder of two businesses that are here to bring the soul back into the office. I, too, work a 9 to 5 in corporate tech. 

I'm a surfer, a writer, a philosopher-artist, if you will, and I'm so excited to bring you this episode today. If you haven't, please leave the show a 5-star rating, and if this episode resonates, consider saving it and sharing it with someone you think it would resonate with too. 

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The thing is, if you are even slightly conscious as a being, working in a corporate environment can be and can feel difficult. It can feel effortful. It can feel taxing. 

There are days of inspiration, days where you feel like you can meet your potential, days where you're genuinely excited and passionate about your work, and there are days of gloom and empty holes where motivation once lived. There are moments of discouragement, of feeling disheartened, disempowered, dysregulated, minimized, feeling like maybe you don't fit into this puzzle or maybe you don't want to play this game anymore. 

I don't think I talk about this enough on the show. I don't think I allow enough space for this side of the human experience at work, which is a very real piece of the human experience in general. 

Working for and with other people with whom you feel disconnected can be one of the most conflicting and painful and wounding experiences for our psyches. And I want to acknowledge that wholeheartedly. 

I was talking to a dear friend this morning aboutEessential Teams, my business that services the corporate world via team building and people development. We were discussing how important the work is and why, and what I articulated is that the workplace disconnects us from our Self – like capital S self, but also just authentic way of being. In many workplaces, in order to thrive, or so we think, we have to disconnect from ourselves.Sometimes we feel that we need to perform or act outside of integrity in order to be successful. But most especially in order to be respected and in order to rise up the ranks. And by β€˜act out of integrity,’ I don't mean do bad things. I mean act in ways, even in most especially small, tiny, infinitesimal ways, that are not authentic. 

I recently led a workshop with a group of up-and-coming leaders. These were people who were identified as high-achieving, top performers across their organization. What I found when I got there was a group of people who were so far removed from themselves or who had such distorted views of themselves after a lifetime and a career conforming to a set of beliefs that didn't belong to them. 

There was very little humanity that dominated the room, but rather there was a lot of performance, a lot of ego, and archetypes of the β€œgood student.” There was little true listening to what others had to say, but rather demonstration of their own individual competence and knowledge and superiority. 

I was not there to teach them what to believe. I was not there to teach them how to lead or how to think or what was right or wrong. I wasn't showing up with β€œthe right way to be a leader,” although the workshop was about leadership. I was there to invite them to touch the wisdom that they have within themselves, to ignite and activate the true leadership that exists deep down. Because that is what I do. 

But many from this group were so disconnected from that inner wisdom that they were resistant and even combative at first. And I just want to say that true leadership is leading without a manual, without a book, without a grade, without someone to look to and give you the head nod that you are right. True leadership is not about being right, and there are many books on leadership and how to lead, but there's not a definitive set of rules or steps to follow. 

There's no mile marker that says, okay, now you are a leader. Now you've made it. Leadership is an embodied way of being, of showing up in the world, regardless of whether or not you are in charge.

And integrity is not something that you have. It is how you be. It is how you show up in the world. You can feel it when you act in integrity. And leadership is not something that you demonstrate. It is who you are. 

From my personal experience in working, but also in coaching, the people that I see at the very, very top, the people who last, people that I've worked with and that I know personally, are people who are willing to look at themselves again and again and again and again from all sorts of different lenses and angles. People who are open, people who take the time for self-reflection, who take the time and the effort to cultivate integrity in how they lead themselves first. Because leadership starts with the self. 

You have to know how to lead yourself first, before you can lead on behalf of anyone else. Again, because there is no rulebook, there's nothing to look to outside of you when you have to do hard things. It matters who you are when you make a hard decision, like to lay off 200,000 people or not; to ask a whole organization to not have bonuses or merit increases for the next fiscal. 

Who you are matters when you enter a difficult conversation, who you are when your organization, the people within your organization doubt you, when they give you hard feedback, when they don't trust you, when they question your authority or your authenticity. That cannot be a performance. It's not sustainable. You won't get through it. You can only last so long. 

You have to know who you are.

Who you are when things get tough for your business is very different than who you appear to be. And true leadership is not based in appearances. Appearances only get you so far.

And I've said it like 14 times already. But there are no right answers. In order to get to the very top, most especially in a sustainable way, without burning out, without questioning your existence, you have to know yourself. 

You have to be yourself. Leading from the self is the most effortless leading that we can do, where leading from performance is taxing as hell. And while many think that leading from performance is self-sacrificial and necessary for the greater good, I disagree. 

Leading an organization from performance is perpetuating a culture that pulls people out of themselves in order to survive at work. It results in one group of employees who just go through the motions, leading to mediocre work and complacency, which leads to high turnover, which leads to bad culture, which leads to less than ideal output or results. And it results in another group of employees who overly perform and conform themselves to meet the fake standards of a leader's performance in order to get the gold star again and again and again and again until they've β€œmade it.” 

It's a cycle that leads to the acceptance of an ideology that corporate is soul sucking and soulless, but it's people who run the corporate world and its performance and demonstrative behavior that is soulless. So if you are even a little bit conscious and you don't have a conscious leader, working in this cycle can feel draining. It can feel effortful. 

You may be more attuned to the lack of authenticity and it might even feel unbearable at times, especially if you can't put your finger on it or articulate why it doesn't feel good. 

So that's really why we're here today. That's what this episode is about. 

It's not really about true leadership, but rather, it's me wanting to share with you seven perspective shifts or mindset shifts to make your job feel easier. To make you feel more effective at work in your personal life, and to remind you of what really matters, which sometimes is your job, but sometimes it isn't. 

These are shifts that can help you thrive in an environment where you don't always feel like you fit in. Where the change that needs to take place is systemic. Where you are absolutely not as powerless as you may sometimes feel, but where you may sometimes feel powerless and minimized. Because I've been in the room now with many leaders of the corporate world and there's definitely hope. 

There are many leaders who are truly incredible, but the exposure that my work gives me tells me that there's still much work to be done. 

So regardless of your title or your position, these perspectives are not about leadership but about individual survival in the corporate world. They are perspectives that may help you rectify staying in a job that you don't love or working for someone that is mediocre in terms of leadership or being placed in a system that feels impossible to change. 

And this episode isn't about positivity, but about taking your power back. I'll give you the full list of perspectives or mindsets to try on and then we will dive into each one. 

  1. You do not work for your job, your job works for you. 

  2. It's not what you do, it's who you are. And those are not the same. 

  3. Your money potential is unlimited. 

  4. You are not defined by a salary or earning potential. 

  5. The only rules that you have to follow are the ones that you agree to yourself. 

  6. The quality of your experience at work is not something that you fall into. It's not something that happens to you, you get to decide. 

  7. You don't need permission to be a human being who has a life. 

So let's go through these in a little bit more depth: 

First, you do not work for your job, but your job works for you. It's kind of a play on the question, are you living to work or working to live? I feel like some of us hear this question and think or feel like maybe it's black or white. Or like we need to quit our jobs, or make these really big changes. 

But the biggest external changes come from the smallest shifts that we make internally. This is one of those shifts. You do not work for your job, but your job works for you. 

What does that mean? It means to remember that your job is transactional. You are getting paid in exchange for your time, your skills, your labor, your expertise, your deliverables for someone else's mission. 

But the question is, what is your mission

What do you want to achieve? Or how do you want to live in this one single life that you have on this planet? Rather than devoting yourself entirely to someone else's vision, zoom out and ask yourself, β€œWhat is my vision for my life?” Remember the big picture and remember that you get to decide where your workplace, your career, your job, whatever you do to make money, you get to decide where that fits into your big picture.

How does working contribute to the life that you want to create? To the life that you want to be living? How does your paycheck contribute to that life? How do the skills that you learn on the job contribute to that life? Are you using the resources made available to you through your work to become the type of person that you want to be? Are you taking advantage of every experience that your work provides you to learn, to see yourself more deeply, to grow? 

Or are you waiting for the weekend, waiting until you retire, just blindly accepting that work is a part of life and therefore not consciously showing up there? And then numbing yourself out afterwards and then not actually truly building the life of your dreams because of some faulty beliefs that you hold about work? 

Your job works for you. You do not work for your job. I mean, you do technically. You do do work for your job. But you don't need to give your whole life in exchange. 

How can you get more out of your workplace? Not just money, not just time back, but those things too. How can you take full advantage of what you're being given? What you are choosing to show up for? 

I recorded an entire episode on this topic, by the way. It's episode 31 and it's called It's Not Your Job That's Making You Feel Vaguely Dissatisfied With Your Life. The only thing that I would now add to that is a little bit more empathy. I understand that work can feel minimizing. 

I understand that it can be hard to show up in something day in and day out that you don't really care about. I understand that it can be really easy to go through the motions or to hardcore devote yourself to work to try to be the best. I understand that you may not feel like you fit in or belong or like working is not the pathway to your deepest dreams. 

I also understand that there are systems at play that do not work in your favor, and that seeing this can be disheartening or discouraging or painful. And on top of that, seeing other people seemingly happy or fulfilled or getting through it with a smile on their face or a big beautiful house and family, can make it feel worse. I understand the feeling of what's the point? Thinking that you can't make significant change anyway. 

And I understand being the person with a smile on their face or the big beautiful house and family that maybe feels a little empty. All of that is normal. 

Nothing is wrong with you if you feel any of those things or more of those things or something along those lines. It's not you. It's complicated. But you do have power and you do have a choice in who you want to be and how you want to show up. 

And it's worthwhile to dream. It's worthwhile to hold a vision for the life that you want to live and to figure out where your job fits into that vision and to use it for all that it can give you to build a life that you'll one day look back on and be proud of. 

You do not work for your job. Your job works for you. Use that. 

Second mindset or perspective shift is it's not what you do, but it's who you are. And those are not the same. 

Your job title, what you do for a living, your company's name, who you work for has nothing to do with you. It doesn't mean anything about you.

Decouple your identity with your job and instead decide who you want to be at that job and in your life. Because you are not your job. You are not your salary. You are not the company that you work for. You are not what you do for a living or where you hold the most skills. You're not your job title. 

You are so much more than that. 

To conflate your identity with your job title or role or workplace is to constrain yourself. It's to keep yourself small. 

Answer this question: β€œWho are you?” 

Answer this question: β€œWho are you?” and leave out all of the roles that you play in your life, i.e., mother or father, friend, daughter or son, husband or wife, director, producer, professor, executive, leader, anything that would describe what you do or a role that you play. Leave that out and answer the question, β€œWho are you?’ What's left? 

There's nothing outside of you that defines you, but the things outside of you definitely can show you aspects and pieces of you. Yet they are not everything. Who you are is not what you do for a living. 

Cultivate yourself. Cultivate your way of being in the world. Find out what it means to be an integrity.

Allow yourself, not a title or a company, allow yourself to be your guidepost, to inform you of how you ought to show up. If your identity relies or stands on something external to you, when that thing is taken away, who do you become? Know yourself and you stand to lose nothing. It's not what you do, but it's who you are. 

And by the way, knowing who you are is the basis for leading yourself through the unknown and leading yourself through the unknown is the basis for leading others through the unknown. So let go of the job title, figure out who you are, cultivate and refine that. 

Okay, third, your money potential is unlimited.

The amount of money that you make or the amount of money that you can make, is not capped by your job or your job title. In some cases, it's not even tapped by your company or your industry. You get to decide

You get to decide how much money you want to make and how much money you want to receive. And it is not correlated with the amount of work that you do. There are infinite possibilities for making money and making more money, even at work, even working for someone else. 

Open your mind to this. Notice if even hearing me saying that the amount of money you make is not capped by your job – notice what your thoughts are and particularly your objections.

Does your mind constantly close the door on ideas or opportunities, or are you constantly focused on the reasons why not? Or are you open to the possibility of what is and of what could be? 

I work with clients and I know people personally, I have friends, who have made millions of dollars in the corporate world without reaching executive levels or without selling companies. People whose names you've never heard of, people who showed up and did their jobs and were open to everything. 

Your potential is only limited if you limit it. Your mind is the first door to open if you want to receive more. What you focus on expands. 

This is why all of these perspectives are wonderful perspectives to hold, or in the very least, to look at and play with. These are invitations for focal points that can reap results in the material world for you. Because what you focus on expands. If you want to make more money and you focus on that and you clean up your relationship with money, you can't not make more money. 

Small example, a woman that I know recently shared her salary and her brother's salary. Over the years, her salary has grown consistently, where over the same years, her brother's salary has stayed the same. Their qualifications are not too far away from each other, but she makes way more money than him, like more than double. 

And I don't think that's an accident. I also met someone last night who doesn't have a degree, but became a mechanic, and then shifted into computer programming, who now works for an incredible company who makes bank, but also has a real estate business on the side to support his son, who is a race car driver. In terms of financials, he does really, really, really well. 

And I just think that if he had limited himself for a lack of a degree, or not having all the right things, or working for the wrong people. Or because it's impossible to make a certain amount of money if you don't have a degree or aren't in a certain field. If he had limited himself with any of those thoughts, the outcome could have been completely different. If either this man or this woman didn't believe in their earning potential, it wouldn't exist in the way that it does. And these are just two very small examples from, like, recently. 

Your potential and your money potential is truly unlimited. 

Fourth, continuing with the money theme, you are not defined by a salary or earning potential. 

Money is a neutral amplifier and it doesn't define you. But it will show you parts of yourself. 

The amount of money you make means nothing about you. So decouple your identity and your ego with your salary. 

I invite you to take on this mindset and this idea, which is that money is a neutral amplifier. Again, having it or not having it means nothing about you. And it means nothing about anyone else who either has it or doesn't have it. 

Money is such an interesting topic. I love talking about it and our relationships with it because it's sort of taboo. But most especially in the corporate world, like we talk about money, but we often try to talk about it generally rather than personally. 

We are all for pay transparency, but how many of us are sharing our exact earnings publicly or in the name of pay transparency or in the name of the things that we believe? I don't know very many people who do that. 

And legally, depending on your company, there may be implications for sharing your salary and numbers. So there are systems at play that maybe keep us quiet, that perpetuate these stories that money is not something that we talk about. 

And in general, when it comes to money, there's this energetic charge. There are a lot of subconscious beliefs living inside each of us associated with money. Each of us has a complex relationship with money, yet we all work for money. 

In this world, we need money to live. It's part of our basic needs and it's okay to want more of it. It's okay to want more than we need. In fact, many of us want more of it. But also many of us have a complex relationship with it, where we feel like maybe we can't want more money or we don't deserve more money or we shouldn't talk about it. 

Understanding what your relationship really is with money is crucial.

It impacts the way you show up and the way you feel at work, whether you realize it or not. Because again, you are working for money. So getting yourself to a place where money is neutral, where money means nothing about you or about anyone else. This brings about a big shift in your life and your results. 

So I'm offering these perspectives to try on when it comes to money. That your earning potential is unlimited, one, and two, that money is a neutral amplifier. 

But more than that, I invite you to dig into your relationship with money because if you have a job or a business, you're working for it. And if you live in this world, then you need money to survive and to thrive. Investigating your relationship with money and shifting it, so that your thoughts and feelings are supportive for having it, can really make working a lot more fun and a lot more easy to show up to. 

Okay, number five, the only rules that you have to follow are the ones that you agree to yourself. 

Work is a game that we choose to play. Work is just a game. 

There are a set of rules, and you can master those rules and win, but you can also make your own rules. And you really don't have to follow or favor anyone else's rules but your own. Last summer, I was lamenting with a friend about the rules that seemingly exist in the world and how the systems that are in place that incentivize us to follow the rules. 

And I was going on and on and on about how suffocating and minimizing it can feel to have rules made by someone else imposed onto me, so that I could survive. And this dear friend challenged me to make my own rules instead. And to play my own game instead. And to stop focusing so much on the games that are being played around me. And I thought it was a really interesting take. So I sat down and I asked myself if there were a set of rules that I would wholeheartedly get down with and follow, what would those rules be? And I wrote down five statements. Instantly, I realized that the only constraints that I perceive as being imposed on me, are actually the ones that are imposed by me. 

My five rules were, in fact, not conflicting at all with any system or structures in place in this world. 

I could live by my rules, and in this way, I could create my own game that is actually not a conflict of interest with the games and the ways of the world. And figuring this out was really liberating. So that's why this number is here, this perspective shift is here. 

I invite you to play with this. I invite you to create your own rules for the way that you want to be and exist and live in this world, and I invite you to see where you stand. 

What games are you playing? How do you want to show up in them? If it were up to you, how would you win? How would you get there? 

My rules for context are this: 

  1. Be kind always. 

  2. Making money is easy and opportunities are everywhere. 

  3. Show up authentically as you are. 

  4. Give a fuck about your work but not too many. 

  5. Have fun, make it fun, enjoy the game. 

I chose these rules because they're kind of my principles for living.

The thing that matters most to me is kindness. A mentor once told me that if I could do nothing else with my life, that I should be kind. And that someone who is simply kind, truly kind, impacts the world in a far greater way than someone who builds a legacy of helping others. 

Think about that. Kindness is powerful.

And it's okay if this doesn't resonate with you, by the way, or if it doesn't resonate with you quite as much when you're making your own rules. They are yours. Make them yours. 

But for me, kindness is where I always begin. Kindness is my first rule. 

My second rule is making money is easy and opportunities are everywhere. This is a rule that I would love to be imposed on, or imposed onto, onto me. 

And these, this is a rule that I would love to feel on the regular. So it's kind of a mindset that I've adopted through entrepreneurship. Which is: it doesn't have to be hard to make money and there are opportunities everywhere. And this is actually true! 

But I made it a rule so that I could remind myself that while I'm playing, while I'm opted into this game called life, there are hidden opportunities everywhere. And I can find them whenever I want to. As can you. 

My next rule was show up authentically as you are. This is a rule because I hate following cultural or societal norms. I hate feeling like I need to show up in any way that isn't what is spontaneously and naturally occurring within myself. So this rule is a permissioning for me. 

And then I have giving a fuck about my work. Giving a fuck about my work is important to me. 

So I made that a rule too. Basically, I'm saying care about what I'm doing enough to give my total presence, but not too much, like, don't lose sleep over it, basically. 

And finally, if this is a game, then I want to be having fun, I want to enjoy it. So I made that a rule too: Enjoy the game. If it isn't fun, make it fun. That's it. And why not? 

So I want to know if you were to write down a set of rules to live by, what are they? And are they conflicted with the way of the world? And if they are, how? 

If what you are doing is just a game, which it is, what you are doing for a living, it's just a game that you're choosing to play. Why not have fun with it? It doesn't have to be so serious.

Okay. Number six, the quality of your experience at work is not something that you fall into. 

It's not something that happens to you. You get to decide. We are not victims of our jobs or of our lives. Work does not have to be hard. 

That doesn't mean that there are no bad days, but it does mean that every day doesn't need to be a bad day and that we don't have to accept bad days as the norm. There's a book called Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself by Joe Dispenza. What I love about it is that Dispenza breaks down how a habitual way of thinking becomes part of our personality. Like how one person goes from a few negative thoughts to being characterized as a negative person. 

When it comes to work, I think there's almost too much cultural acceptance of work being work. As in not super engaging, not super stimulating, not so fulfilling. Like, an overall not great experience. 

When I don't think we take enough accountability for how we show up or how we cultivate our own experiences and how we contribute to the experiences of others. 

Are we engaging fully with our jobs? Do we look for ways to stimulate our minds? Is it easier to complain than it is to do something about it? Do we do anything about it when we do complain? 

The quality of your experience at work depends on the quality for which you choose to show up. But most importantly on the quality of your thoughts and the way that you think about work. 

Change your thoughts, change your experience, change your results. That's grossly simplified, but it's true. All you have to do is start with your thoughts. 

If you aren't happy with your job, if you feel like the quality of your experience at work is poor, you're the only one who can do anything about it. So be the change. Think the change into existence. 

Okay and finally, number seven, you don't need permission to be a human being who has a life.

I'm going to repeat that. You don't need permission to be a human being who has a life. 

I was with my favorite couple over this last weekend and we were talking about going to yoga in the morning before work, and my friend said, β€œOh I'll just ask my boss if I can start at nine instead of 8:30.” And my friend's husband said, β€œYour boss literally doesn't care as long as you show up, just go to yoga.” 

And you know, situations vary. So for example, some of you might have a job where you are required to be clocked in between certain working hours and there's no flexibility in that. 

My friend does not have that type of job and her husband is right. My friend is a director level. She works remotely. Her boss doesn't give a shit when she logs on. That's the last thing her boss is thinking about at 8:30 a.m. If her boss is even online at 8:30 a.m. Her boss does not care. She doesn't need to ask permission to log in 30 minutes later because no one is monitoring her. 

Sometimes when we feel self-conscious about something, we either ask for permission, fish for permission, or apologize for something that we aren't really in need of an apology for. And we essentially give away our power. 

I remember years ago at Microsoft, I was struggling to feel like I fit in. This was the very beginning of my career at Microsoft. I was new. I was working on a technical team. I was the only woman on the team. I was the youngest person on the team. I was super insecure about my ability. I was super insecure about being there. I worked in an office, but my boss lived in Colorado and most of my team was remote.I didn't know how to be yet. I didn't know who to look to. And I was looking for someone else to inform me of how to be and how to show up. 

And I remember I was sharing my experience with a female mentor who said to me, β€œMarie, if you say, β€˜Sorry, this is a dumb question.’ You say that before you ask a question because you want someone else to say, β€˜Oh no, no worries. It's not dumb at all.’ But then they don't say that. And instead, they just answer your question. That is on you.” 

She said, β€œMarie, just leave out the apology and ask your question. Don't apologize when you're looking for permission. Just stop saying things that give away your power.” 

And I would add to what she told me: That we don't need to be explaining ourselves because that is also giving away our power. 

As a boss, I don't give any fucks if you log in at 8:30 or 9:00 and I really don't care why you're logging in at 9:00 instead of 8:30. I don't give any fucks if you need to log off for two hours in the middle of the day to go to yoga or to pick up your kids. And as a friend, I don't really care why you can't meet me for dinner on Tuesday at 6:00 p.m. as long as everything is okay in your life. I do care if something is wrong, of course. But what I'm saying is you don't owe me an explanation or a justification and you don't have to apologize and you certainly don't have to ask for my permission regardless of role that I play. 

I said as a boss and then I said as a friend because I think sometimes as human beings, we give too much power away to others to be considerate or to be seen or to feel understood or to receive validation and it's no one else's job to permission you, to see you, or to validate you. Especially when you're asking passively or indirectly. Just go to yoga or surf when the waves are good or pick up your kids from school. 

Let people know what you're doing. Of course, create awareness if you need to but you don't need to ask for permission.

If you create healthy boundaries around the things that matter to you in your life, people will respect that. Your job will respect that. 

It's not going to mean anything about you. No one's going to judge you. You don't need permission to be a human being and to have a life outside of work. You can just be a human being and if you want validation, that's okay. That's human but just ask for it. Don't mask it in a seeking permission or an apology or a justification.

And I will add this: 

Another mentor once told me that it's okay to have a thing that takes me away from work and that it's okay if that thing isn't children. She told me to guard my thing, to do my thing, to prioritize my thing and that just because it's not kids doesn't mean it isn't important to me and important for me to hold sacredly on my calendar or over my work. 

I share with you this as well, because it's okay to have a life outside of work that occasionally takes you away from your work.

Remember, your job works for you. You can, you are allowed, I'm giving you permission even though you definitely don't need it from me: You can work to live. 

You don't have to live to work.

And that's it. That's my list. That's the list. 

Seven perspective shifts or mindset shifts to help you thrive in your 9-5. 

Whether or not the conditions are most favorable, whether or not your leadership is conscious or performative or a mix. The truth is you are accountable for your life and that includes your work and your experience at work. 

So let's make it actually feel good. 

Yeah?

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Putting a positive spin on your working experience won't solve the problems you face in the office (virtually or in-person). Positivity about your working situation will also not fulfill you or reconcile the conflicting thoughts and feelings you have about your day job.

This episode is about acknowledging that, while taking back the power that you do have when it comes to your work, most especially if you work in corporate america. 

Episode themes: Corporate America | Leadership Development | Mindset Coaching | Accountability | Personal Power | Power Dynamics | Working to live vs. living to work

Episode References: 

Episode 34: It's Not Your Job That's Making You Feel Vaguely Dissatisfied with Your Life

Breaking the Habit of being you by Joe Dispenza https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/12951631 

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The production of this episode was in collaboration with Lyndsee Nielson. See her work here: www.lyndseeloves.com

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