🎙️ 78. Calculating Cosmic Cycles with Maurielle Laurenne

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As you know, we have been diving deep into our current series, Woo Woo at Work. By now you may have come to the conclusion that this work is really not all that “woo woo” and I think this episode especially will validate or confirm this conclusion because in it, we talk about astrology without really mentioning the words astrology.

We don’t talk about your sun moon and rising signs or why learning these things about yourself or your team will be effective. Instead, we talk about the mathematics of the universe and how you can use this universal language and insight to optimize your life, your performance, your team, your business, and more.

Maurielle Laurenne is our guest and she so skillfully guides us using common and even corporate language to share a fresh perspective with immediately practical and actionable and useful insights. I hope you enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed recording with the incredible Maurielle.

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I believe that working can be one of the most spiritual paths that we walk. Whether that work is turning your passion into a business, or sitting behind a desk for 8 hours a day, or anywhere beyond and in between. And yet we often take the way in which we show up to work for granted, even though it's where we spend the majority of our time.

Here on The Spiritual 9–5 podcast, we talk about that. We talk about entrepreneurship. We talk about the 9-to-5. We talk about what it's like to be multi-passionate and talented and inspired and also utterly demotivated. We are here to support you in your work, whether your work is sacred to you or just something that you do to get by.

We are here to help you see and know yourself a little bit deeper, and to inspire you to show up no matter what it is that you find. I'm your host, Marie Groover. And like you, I am as multi-passionate as they come. I'm the founder of two businesses that are here to bring the soul back into the office. I, too, work a 9-to-5 in corporate tech. I'm a surfer, a writer, a philosopher-artist, if you will, and I'm so excited to bring you this episode today.

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Marie Groover: Okay. Before we dive into the episode, I have to offer an intro of Maurielle. Maurielle Laurenne, known as the Cosmic Coach, is our expert advisor for this episode. Not only does she have a business degree, but she has 13 years of experience coaching business professionals and executives. She has mega credentials in metaphysics, but maybe most importantly to this episode, her unique coaching methodology is based on math.

Maurielle is an expert at calculating cosmic cycles to understand the invisible energy patterns of individuals and businesses so that professionals can make more strategic decisions. Maurielle Laurenne is a cosmic coach who for the past 10 years, has helped CEOs, entrepreneurs, high performance athletes, and beyond to advance their lives and careers based on unique energy patterns described by their birthdays. Maurielle’s special method combines Executive Leadership Coaching with the energetics of Cosmology, Quantum Physics, and Behavioral Psychology.

She has guided over 947+ coaching clients, stars in the movie 'Mission From Outer Space' about cosmic consciousness, is spokesmodel for Zodica Perfumery–America's #1 best selling zodiac themed fragrance featured on Shark Tank. She has authored a monthly guidance column in 3 magazines, featured on Channel 26 news, is a licensed ordained minister, she was named a Business Trailblazer in the City Of Houston, and nominated as one of the Top 20 Small Business Entrepreneurs in Houston. Maurielle has even taught mindfulness practices like meditation in New York City’s Times Square alongside Buddhist monks and the personal artist for His Holiness, The Dalai Lama.

Her clients include a Nike athlete, an Olympian, a host from HGTV's House Hunters show, the Chief Financial Officer of a $56 Billion dollar Fortune 500 company, a celebrity client honored by Queen Elizabeth II, a Miss Texas USA candidate, and many other high-performance leaders.

Maurielle is also a Certified Psychedelic Integration Specialist. Honestly, I’m not sure what this woman is not capable of – or what credentials she doesn’t have or what she has not done. Maurielle is truly a woman of deep integrity and devotion to herself and her work. And I’m so excited to have her join us.

Hey, Mauriellele.

Maurielle Laurenne: Hey, Marie.

MG: How are you?

ML: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on the podcast today. You are one of my favorite people who teaches about energetics for executives, which is also one of my favorite things to talk about. So I'm super looking forward to this conversation.

MG: Thank you so much for this, and thank you so much for joining me today. It means the absolute world.

So I'm gonna just dive right in with some questions.

First question, strategic planning. So strategic planning is one of the most significant yet ambiguous questions that every business person, every leader asks themselves, which would be the question of: How do I know if I'm doing the right thing?

And I think every leader secretly wishes that there was a metaphorical crystal ball or even a handbook that would help them make better decisions. And I'm curious from your perspective, is there?

ML: So here's a hidden fact. You can learn to predict your future to plan your life. You know, timing is one of the most important business decisions you can make to guarantee that you're directing your calendar, cash, and focus towards the right things at the right time.

So do you ever wish you could know, like, precisely when to launch a product, negotiate a deal, or host an event to really get the biggest bang for your buck? Well, the secret formula resides in the universal mathematics of cosmic cycles.

You can actually calculate the best dates and worst dates for executing various goals, and the math is based upon longitude, latitude, speed, and time used for navigation. It's the same mathematics that your Uber driving app uses to tell you where you're going, the best route to take, when you're gonna arrive at your destination, and what conditions you might encounter along the way. So it is possible to know what to do when and to organize your life and business decisions in alignment with these universal mathematics.

MG: Mmmm…this is fascinating! So you know this because you and I have talked about this, but timing is something that I've been super interested in and fascinated by. I'm curious, what is the most important timing a business person, or a leader, or someone in corporate, or really an entrepreneur, anyone should be aware of?

ML: So there's 4 key timetables every business person needs to know. There's annual cycles, seasonal cycles, monthly cycles, and daily cycles.

So have you ever put effort towards something, but then wondered why it didn't take off, like launching a project or trying to date someone?

MG: Mhmm.

ML: Or have you ever wondered when something is finally going to happen, like wanting to meet someone special or winning that promotion you've been going for? Or maybe you've wondered, like, why something suddenly went wrong even though you seem to do everything right. Or maybe you've experienced an out of the blue synchronicity and wondered why it arrived at just that time. And maybe sometimes you've deliberated about when to take action, like when should you apply for a job or when should you move?

And maybe you've wondered why nothing is happening, and then all of a sudden, everything is happening all at once. So the answer to why certain things happen when is math. So doing the right thing at the right time is always key for successful business planning. You know? Otherwise, even the best laid plans can always tank. So the lifesaver though is that we can calculate opportunity periods and challenging periods.

MG: Oh, okay. This is fascinating. Can you be more specific about key timing for business success?

ML: Absolutely. I like to start with monthly cycles, and the monthly cycles include illumination and completion, communication and planning, and action and attraction.

So your monthly cycles are based on the mathematics of the moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars. Illumination periods arise every 2 weeks at the new moon and the full moon. So this is where you can anticipate new beginnings and expect completions and results.

The communication and planning periods are governed by Mercury and last about 3 weeks. This is where connections and contracts are made and where you should be planning ahead.

Action and attraction periods are governed by Venus and Mars, and they last about a month to a month and a half. And this is where you should prioritize money and effort and relationships and health.

So the next cycles that I like to look at are the seasonal cycles, which are review periods and pivot points. The seasonal cycles are based on the mathematics of retrogrades and eclipses.

Review points arise at various intervals throughout the year based on when each planet speed temporarily slows down and appears to fall behind the line of sight of the earth. Or the technical term which you may have heard of is called “retrograde.” Now what's interesting is that all planets retrograde at some point during the year, but the most infamous is Mercury Retrograde because it happens seasonally, or 3 to 4 times a year, basically once per business quarter. So this is often when people say shit hits the fan. Right? Everything that can go wrong will. There's technology flops, transportation issues, scheduling conflicts, mishaps, misunderstandings, delays, and redirections.

You know, I once had a technology client who intended to launch their new software product during a Mercury retrograde, and I advised them not to do it. Well, sure enough, the product development took longer than expected, so they inevitably had to agree to a later launch date, though I had suggested would be quite a bit more favorable. As a coach, my opinion is that Mercury retrograde is a time for crucial conversations that need to happen, maybe canceling contracts or getting out of situations that aren't working for you, possibly leaving a job or ending a lease or slowing down to rethink a plan that you might have rushed?

MG [00:11:11]: Oh, man. This is so good. So I actually, [laughs] as woo woo as I can be and as into astrology as I am, I did not realize that Mercury retrograde happened 3 to 4 times per year. I knew that it happened multiple times per year. I would say in the last 2 years is, like, really what I finally picked up on that.

I would also say, like, similarly, you know, I think about my own personal cycle, and I think about how it took me almost 32, 33 years to really start to get in line with it and to really start to realize, oh, the same thing happens every single month. This is wild! [laughs] I had no idea. So Mercury retrograde happens, yeah, about once a quarter. So, yeah, this is cool. This is good to know. Let's talk about the next or other cycles that might be of note.

ML: Yeah. So the next most infamous seasonal cycle is Venus Retrograde, which happens every 18 months. So this is when relationships, money, and appearances go haywire.

You'll see romantic breakups, affairs, business partnership scandals, client drama, coworker drama, money challenges, or a public image issue with how things look or how things are being presented.

You know, I once had a client who ended her engagement during a Venus Retrograde when she discovered that her fiance was having an affair and also hiding his 6 figure financial debt that he was hoping his mistress would pay off for him. [laughs]

MG: Mmmm..

ML: So, you know, as a coach, my opinion is that Venus Retrograde is a time for sizing up the give and take in relationships and terminating any interactions that don't have a payoff. You might also be downsizing or consolidating assets to make life and business more affordable, perhaps leaving behind an old income stream, maybe researching better compensation packages, and brainstorming a business makeover such as a social media facelift or working quietly on a rebrand.

Their most infamous seasonal cycle is Mars Retrograde, which happens every 2 years. This is when tempers blow up, accidents can happen, or health issues arise like burnout and stress that reach intolerable peaks and damage your professional performance.

I did have a client who had insisted on taking a major international business trip to the Middle East during a Mars Retrograde, which I had advised him not to do. Well, sure enough, the country borders got shut down due to the COVID pandemic and terrorist threats. So he inevitably had to reschedule the business trip for 2 months later during a period that I reassured him would be much safer.

So with things like that in mind, you know, as a coach, my opinion is really that Mars Retrograde is a time for withdrawing from people and projects that are draining, taking extra time off for rest and recuperation, and maybe even airing the dirty laundry to confront some passive aggressive conflict with others, and certainly being extra careful if your business service involves a lot of physical activity or physical contact with other people.

MG: Mmmm. Wow.

ML: So a few other things of note, the annual cycles. So our annual cycles are based on the mathematics of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. They include the expansion cycle, maturity cycle, awakening cycle, visionary cycle, and evolution cycle.

So the expansion cycle lasts for about 4 months on, 4 months off. Right? Expansion and contraction. And this is where your business, where your life is growing and increasing, gaining momentum, and where you often experience luck. I love to use expansion cycles as a time for launching new products, services, and branding projects.

Now the maturity cycle is a little bit more like a contraction cycle. It's where the universe wants you to grow up by mastering tough lessons. So the maturity cycle lasts also for about 4 months, and it's usually where we have to rein things in in our resources or our staff.

Now the awakening cycle occurs every 6 months, and it's really where some healthy disruption can often create, like, innovation and freedom and options and enliven our genius. So when the awakening cycle hits our business, it's when we might feel tempted to take a sudden left turn to endeavor into a new product line, a new industry, really take a different direction maybe with our leadership team or our corporate culture.

Then the visionary cycle, which also lasts for 6 months, is tends to be where our creative juices are flowing, and we're almost a bit more psychically in tune with the universe. So some of the creativity and ideas that we're getting are a little bit beyond just the logic of our own human mind, and we seem to be more tapped into the collective, like knowing what the people want, really being in touch with the consumer base. And even a step beyond that being in touch with the collective on a universal base. Right? The collective energy of the planet and just where the direction of humanity and the industry is going.

And then lastly, the evolution cycle also lasts for 6 months, and this is where power shifts occur. Right? So this is deaths and formations and rebirth. So I always tell people, if you're looking for a power move or if you are wondering when a power move or a power broker, power struggle might hit you, then check when your evolution cycle is because that's when the major beginnings and endings are gonna occur in the business.

MG [00:16:45]: Woah. Okay. My mind is blown right now. I'm immediately thinking about how powerful well, I'm thinking of myself, to be honest, I'm thinking about how powerful it would be to align my own business to these cycles [laughs] Even thinking about my fiscal year calendar, things like that. So are these cycles business dependent? Like, would you look at these cycles for a particular business, or are they more like founder dependent?

ML: Yeah. You can look at it 2 ways. So if you're an entrepreneur, for example, meaning you have your own energetics and then your business is an entity. It's a person. It's a being of its own. Is the founder themselves has their own universal cycles, but the business has its own independent entity does too.

Now the difference between a corporate leader versus an entrepreneurial leader is that typically, the entrepreneurial leader will have very similar cycles to the business itself because the business is its baby. Right? It's creation. They have a direct connection to the business. So very often, the entrepreneurial founder and the entrepreneurial business will have really similar cycles. However, corporate leaders, typically, the corporate executive is not per se oftentimes the original founder of the company. So there there can be a difference in the personal timing for that individual corporate executive versus the overall, business that they are employed at.

MG: This is fascinating. And so if you were working with a corporate leader, would you look at both then, both the timing of the leader and the business?

ML: Yeah. You would want to look at both as if they were separate entities and then try to align the times in the middle. Right? The cycles that are in the middle that connect both the..the leader as well as the corporate business. So you'd wanna merge both.

MG: Oh my goodness. Yeah. This is so cool. I'm, again, I'm thinking about just mapping out a fiscal year. So a lot of the work that I've done in the corporate space, not from my business, but as a corporate employee has been around noticing rhythm. So owning things like rhythm of the business, owning like annual planning, own like monthly business reviews. This is something that's just followed me around in my career for a long time.

And as I'm learning this, I'm like, damn, I wish I had known about some of these cycles before, because something that I often say at work is that process or rhythms are like nature – they reveal themselves to us. And so what I tend to do is I, I will just observe for a really long time. And then I document what I observe and then we refine as we go. And then I kind of start to bring everyone into that awareness.

But now I'm almost even like, wow, it would be really cool to take these cycles and almost overlay them onto a fiscal year calendar just to see where things feel good and where there might be friction or where maybe like there's a year where annual planning needs to happen a little bit sooner or later or where disruptions might occur so that we can actually hold space and time for that. This is just so cool. Thank you.

ML: I love what you said about it being like nature's rhythms and how it reveals itself. And that's why I love working with universal mathematics is because it is the calculations that come from mother nature itself, and they do reveal themselves to us, which is why when we utilize universal mathematics, we are really working in perfect alignment and energy flow.

MG: Mmm, oh my goodness. This is amazing. Okay. I have one more question about this topic. So one thing that you didn't mention that I would love to hear more about because we just experienced one, would be the eclipses. So how do eclipses factor in or fit in with these kind of annual cycles?

ML [00:20:18]: Great question. So eclipses are like pivot points, and they're based on the intersections of the sun and the moon. And these eclipses or pivot points arrive 4 times a year, always within 2 weeks of each other as pairs. So eclipses tend to be really unpredictable, sudden, and activating, which is why they're often said to cause either spontaneous mishaps or spontaneous miracles. So either way, they often instigate a sudden turn of events.

Well, how do you know if an eclipse is gonna be good for you or bad for you is they tend to exacerbate pre-existing conditions. Meaning, if you or your business are in a current situation where things are challenging, maybe it's not going well, the eclipse comes along, and it can exacerbate the issues that are already at hand forcing you to finally make a decision.

And if things seem to be going really well and they're accelerating, there's lots of momentum right now, the eclipse comes along and it enhances that. And so all of a sudden, you may have a sudden opportunity, an incredible recognition, a great windfall that seems to build upon the momentum that was already there within the coming weeks.

MG: Oh my goodness. Okay. This is so cool. Maurielle, I feel I'm, like, laughing at myself internally because, so you said eclipses are 4 times a year, always within pairs. This is another [laughs] this is another cycle that I did not realize happened just so precisely every single time. So this is I'm just learning more and more how mathematical all of this really is.

ML: Well, the great thing to realize in its simplicity is that pretty much everything in the sky goes in one big circle. Right? And so once you understand longitude, latitude, speed, and time, you are able to calculate the navigation of when things are going to come around in the circle. Right? And, of course, anything that goes in a circle tends to repeat itself. So not only can you predict the future, but you can also contextualize the past.

MG: Wow. You make it sound so simple. [laughs] This is amazing. Okay. So what's the difference? Like what shifts in someone's life and business when they are aligned with the cosmic cycles? So, are there any proven behavioral shifts or measurable results that prove the benefit of calculating decisions with universal mathematics? How can we leverage this?

ML: Mmm. Yeah. I think the result of following these cosmic cycles is that you really learn to follow the signs and feel in the flow. What I observe in most clients is that all of a sudden, their utilization of time, money, and effort becomes much more cohesive, meaning they're spending on the right things at the right time. And they tend to notice the hints and clues that are pointing them in the next direction to take the next steps. They become more observant of synchronicities, and they tend to trust their instincts.

I think a lot of times too, challenges and setbacks become contextualized and they go, “Okay. I can pass this test with grace, and I also know when this test is going to end and good things are gonna move forward and come again”. And I noticed too that clients tend to know when to attract the right relationships and opportunities.

It's really interesting to see the utilization of universal mathematics work out in real life. Like, for example, one time I was doing, actually a live television interview with a stranger, and I predicted for him that he was going to purchase a major property, possibly somewhere really far away, 6 months from the TV interview date during the last week of March. Well, at the time of the TV interview, he had no clue what I could be talking about. But then 6 months later, he in fact purchased a property in Costa Rica that is now being turned into a holistic retreat center on the exact date during the last week of March that I had predicted for him. So that was really cool to see how that worked out in real life.

Another really interesting utilization of the timetables was for a fashion industry client. I had predicted the exact date when she would get pregnant and get engaged. A year and a half before it happened, I had told her, I wasn't sure. I said, it looks like you're either going to be pregnant or engaged on November 11, 2021. Well, here's the surprise. It turns out she was both. She got proposed to on November 11, 2021, and she and her then fiance did not yet know they were pregnant, but she was actually pregnant at the time. So it turned out to be a both thing, which was really amazing. And then I also got to predict the, birth date for that eventual child, which was pretty awesome too.

So, you know, and most recently, this was such a wonderful victory for a really dear client of mine. I actually calculated the sale date of the largest private financial investment firm in my city while I was coaching their CEO through his retirement transition. So the CEO had initiated the business sale process in December and was hoping to close by year end, so he could walk away to his new life chapter. But I could really see due to the mathematics that this sale was going to be delayed and drag out for several months. And just as I had predicted, the sale of his business didn't close until March, but he is happily retired and beginning his new life. So really proud of him, really proud of their team.

MG: [Gasps] This is incredible! So this is amazing evidence. Like, I always say when I'm working with clients, like, when something uncanny happens, which is this is something that I would be like, “Oh, this is so uncanny!” But I'm like, oh, actually, you're like, “It's not uncanny at all, Marie. There's math behind this.” [both laugh]” You're like, actually, this is really simple.” But what amazing stories, what amazing evidence that universal math of cosmic cycles is legit. So what's the punch line?

ML: I think if you've ever wondered, what should I be doing and when should I be doing it? Then using universal mathematics of cosmic cycles will help you to know how to always do the right things at the right time. You know, math reveals the unique quantum codes of invisible energy patterns running your life and business. So if you're looking for what feels like impossible answers about the future, then this approach is gonna give you specific answers impossible to find anywhere else.

MG: Oh my goodness. Yeah, this is really fascinating. This is really cool. When we had a session together, so you did a session with me, a life path session. And I remember when we had our session, I was struck by 2 things. 1, I thought I was just sitting for, I don't know, a regular astrology session. Right? When I first met you, I was like, “Okay, Maurielle is an astrologer. I have a ton of experience with astrologers. My childhood best friend is, like, been into astrology since we were, like, 6. I have friends that do astrology.” But what I will say is the way that you approach your work is so different than anyone I've ever worked with or anyone I've ever known in astrology.

And I'm literally just now in this moment realizing it's because of this heavy precision on math and mathematics. The way that you look at things is so much more systematic. And I don't wanna say more systematic than kind of the average astrologer, because I know that there's math behind all of this. But what I really loved is that when we sat for our session, you actually didn't say anything that I expected.

I thought you would be like, “Okay, Marie, your sun sign is this. Your rising sign is this. Your sign is this, your moon sign is this, this is where Mercury is in your chart.” Like, I thought you would say words like that, but instead you said, “Sit down with a piece of paper, write down these words.” You were like, “This is what your life purpose is. These are the things that you're gonna find yourself drawn to and interested in. This is how you can use that. Write down these very specific things.”

Like, I remember we talked about real estate. You know, you were very specific in terms of things that would draw me in, things that would make money for me, things that would feel really good in my life. And you didn't use a single astrological term the entire time. [laughs] I remember leaving that. So it was like a 2 hour session. I remember leaving that session and being like, woah. I was so impressed with 1) the amount of information that you gave me and just how I could process all of it.

But 2) the way that you were able to connect everything without getting lost or without allowing me to get lost in language that I don't know. Right? You communicated it so beautifully to me.

And I think about this, and it makes total sense that you work in the corporate space and with executive clients because executives don't really care always to know what their sun, moon, and rising is. Right? Like, a lot of teams that are working together, if you go and sit with a team, they might not get a whole lot out of knowing what their sun, moon and rising sign is, unless they're interested in just kind of like a light fun session, which I think there's a space for that as well.

But rather you show up with such deep and rich insight into the people and into the business and into, like, how and why it's applicable, which I think is just such a beautiful and skillful practice that you gift so generously. So, yeah, I cannot say that. It's so amazing.

ML: Thank you. Yeah. I believe in speaking to people in plain English rather than technical jargon because what I want is for them to know exactly what to do with the information they've been given.

MG: Mmm. That's so good. Okay. So let's talk about competitive advantage because I see, I see a lot of advantages here, right, in working with you. I'm already thinking about, like, overlaying cycles on my business cycle right now, on my annual planning, on everything that I do. So what's the competitive advantage here? So what do we get out of working with cosmic cycles? How can this help someone?

ML [00:30:10]: So the question to really consider is: “How would your life be different if you knew the answers to your biggest questions ahead of time?” Right?

So in life, the truth is you're gonna spend time, money, and energy no matter what. But the question is really how confident are you that you're spending time, money, and energy on the right things? And I'm willing to bet that you might be on target only half the time. But with the foreknowledge of cosmic cycles, you'll be able to plan in advance to be on target with the right relationships, opportunities, and timing.

MG: Mmmm. So how would someone know if working with Cosmic Cycles is right for them professionally, is right for their business, or is right for their team?

ML: Working with Cosmic Cycles is most effective for the kind of person whose life is really busy and you don't have time to waste. So you might be juggling multiple priorities or have multiple people counting on your decisions. If planning ahead is essential for your budget, your calendar, and your sanity, and if you are often in a state of constant overwhelm that sometimes kinda feels like you're just spinning your wheels, but you're wanting to attract the right relationships and opportunities, and you don't like feeling blindsided by unexpected changes.

I think working with this method is really good for professionals that want to have the peace of mind of knowing that they're really living in the flow. And my coaching advice is, you know, if you're gonna invest in anything, invest in the accuracy of an intentional life.

MG: I love this so much. “Invest in the accuracy of an intentional life.” How beautiful? And what I will say is every single point that you hit on sounds like all of my clients, but it sounds like everyone. Right?

I think so many of us wanna know, are we making the right decisions? Are we making the right decisions at the right time? Are we doing what's right for us? How can we know that with certainty? And I think, you know, what I would have said prior to talking to you is that you can't know with certainty, but now as I'm talking to you, I'm almost like, maybe you can know with certainty. So I'm curious. How did you learn all of this stuff? So, did you start in the woo woo or the spiritual world? Did you start in the traditional business world? How did you become an expert? Tell us your story.

ML: Well, Cosmic Coaching is what I have termed my blended methodology of executive leadership coaching with the energetics of cosmology, quantum physics, and behavioral psychology.

A lot of clients have told me things like my method feels better than therapy, that I've nailed it on the head more than any other self improvement program they've enrolled in, and that most people say they wish they'd started sooner.

In my life before becoming an entrepreneur, I had graduated with a business degree in economics and finance. My graduating university research thesis was a global study of women in executive leadership roles around the world. So I always knew that I wanted to be in a position of power, that I wanted to be a business owner, and that I wanted to be financially competent. So I went to school for those things and I studied other successful leaders who did that well.

I started my executive coaching career consulting for firms that were in really traditional and kinda cutthroat industries of finance and business, actually, with infrastructure building companies and Wall Street private equity funds that typically close deals of about $50 to $250 million. What was interesting, though, is that these really incredible professionals were highly driven, but often unfulfilled by their success.

They knew how to be rich, but not happy. And many executives expressed a sense of disconnect, really questioning if they were doing the right thing and missing a deeper understanding of purpose in their life.

At that time in my career, I was really only working with, like, traditional self improvement methodologies that were taught to me at university and in standard professional training programs, but I always felt like something was missing. And quite frankly, so did a lot of my clients that I tried to use that stuff on. You know, the traditional techniques are helpful, but they're not mind blowing.

So, I went searching for a technique that would get mind blowing results, and that's when I discovered the whole field of energetics. Right? So energetics is a field that bridges science and spirituality to better understand how the invisible influences of the universe affect us. I feel like my search beyond the mediocre mainstream for more holistic methods to help leadership clients excel is what led me to discover the quote, unquote, out there academic field of astrology and behavioral psychology and shamanism and psychedelics and intuitive sciences.

But what I found was that the mind body spirit connection brought much greater fulfillment to individuals and really improved their businesses. And there is some serious scientific and mathematical credibility. Astrology has proved what quantum physics is now demonstrating about an intelligent responsive universe. And what neuroscience is discovering about consciousness and electromagnetic fields. So I was impressed and forever more obsessed with the idea that the energies of the universe were interacting with us.

MG: Oh my goodness. This is incredible. This is such an amazing story of how you became so expert at what you do. But also, this completely explains why our session was so deep and informative, because this is so much more than astrology. Like, what an incredible and blended, integrative approach that truly mixes both worlds of, like, the corporate, the material, or the, quote real world with the quote spiritual or woo woo world, which I think we both know is so much more than that. Right?

So I'm curious though, since you started in the business space, similar to myself, by the way, what did your clients think when you started using energetics to coach them? Did they think that what you were doing was quote, woo woo or were they, wow, you know, were they impressed? Were they responding kind of like, I'm responding now. And did you have to do anything to prove to them that it worked? What was their take? What was their reaction?

ML: Well, at first, I kept it a secret. I kept it a secret that I was using these energetic techniques to coach executives. I was afraid that leaders would immediately reject these approaches as woo woo before even giving it a shot. But I found out as my clients started having really instantaneous and incredible breakthroughs that everyone in the industry started claiming things like, “Oh, she's so accurate. You'd think she's psychic.” And would say things like, “How do you read minds?” and would swear to their colleagues that I could predict the future.

So, eventually I just couldn't keep it a secret any longer because too many people were asking too many questions. Everyone just wanted to know how I seemed to be able to see things that other coaches, psychologists, and advisers couldn't. So the accuracy of my results mattered more than the skepticism and unfamiliarity around trying energetic techniques.

MG: This is incredible. I love this so much. This is amazing! So I think about this, and I think about this with some of the work that I do as well, and how I think initially, even in my career in corporate, as I started, we could say going through spiritual awakening or maybe learning more about myself, diving into the more spiritual spaces and spiritual realms or things that would be dubbed spiritual or woo woo, that my career even took off. And that those around me were impacted and so much differently than prior to that. Right?

And there's some real things that are real tools and practices that can be explained, but also feel like they can't be explained that makes such a big difference. I'm curious, so let's pivot a little bit. I always say I think you've heard me say I've definitely said this on the podcast before that running a business is like a spiritual awakening, that businesses are their own entities. You mentioned this earlier. And so I'm curious, like, from your perspective, can business be spiritual?

ML: Totally. A business or a career is the container through which you deliver your life purpose. The material manifestation of how your inside interacts with the outside and impacts the world via the commercial marketplace. So a business or a career is your opportunity to make a difference in destiny. And this is why I think that high level leaders really work from the seed of the soul. To succeed as a leader, you have to be able to link your sense of spirit and energy to the energy of your business and career. The world is really waiting for you to show up as the hero, the healer, the creator, the innovator, the caregiver of the invisible void in the cosmic psychiatry that only your skills can fill.

And as a leader, your ultimate purpose is to lead others into theirs, and you can only lead others as deeply as you're able to lead yourself.

MG: I have chills. I love everything about what you just said, and I have to repeat back to you. You just said, “high level leaders work from the seat of their soul.” How powerful is this? This is something that every single day, when I go back into the corporate space as a coach, I try to communicate over and over and over again, because you're absolutely right. You can only lead others as deeply as you're able to lead yourself. And it's so important whether you realize it or not, that you're tapped in, that you're tapped into your soul, that you're tapped into the energy. This is so beautiful. So I love this explanation. I love everywhere you're going with this. How can someone find the answers to their spirit, their soul, their internal code? Where does one begin?

ML [00:40:24]: Mmm. Well, the secret to your life purpose resides in the foundational physics that brought you to life, the mathematics of the universe. So all life begins as energy birthed in the quantum field with a cosmic code containing patterns that describe what it's intended to become. So to discover the meaning of your life, go straight to the source for directions. The cosmic code derived from your birthday or the birth date of a business reveals its unique energy patterns.

So in total, there are 12 energy archetypes, 12 paths to purpose, 10 keys to manifestation, and really infinite mathematical combinations. My job is to decipher the cosmic code to give you the map of your patterns, purpose, and potential. So if you're feeling lost or you're wondering what to do next professionally, then the first thing you need to do is find out what you don't know about why you're here. And that will help you make money and cultivate a career that's in alignment with your life purpose.

MG: I love this so much. And, also, how simple: “To discover the meaning of your life, go straight to the source for directions.” That's so amazing. I love this. So you said, “If you're feeling lost or wondering what's true with your life, the first thing you need to do is find out what you don't know about why you're here.” This sounds like you're talking about blind spots, by the way, and we have them all the time. And this is, oh, this is so good. Okay.

So let's talk about life purpose through career. Because I think a lot of us, we attach ourselves to our careers. We identify with our careers. We've been taught, we've been conditioned that our careers are our identities, that our career are our life purpose, that we need to, you know, in order to be happy, we should be fulfilled through what we do for work.

And so many people define their lives through their careers. Is that healthy? Is that normal? What are your thoughts?

ML: Well, there's a lot of logic behind why many people associate a great part of their life purpose to their career. Because statistically speaking, where you will spend the greatest amount of time throughout your life and also the two stress related factors that are most likely to kill you are your career and your relationship. So choose your work and your partners wisely.

What creates a sense of fulfillment in all arenas of life is a connection to meaning and purpose. So this is why having clarity on your life purpose is so crucial to enabling you to make supportive choices of where you spend your time for the most fulfillment. In fact, lifestyle choices that are disconnected from meaning and purpose can be lethal, literally.

MG: Hmmm.

ML: So in my work, I tend to see 3 types of professionals. And there's a link between life purpose, career, and fulfillment.

So a first stage professional is what I call a frenetic professional. They're typically clueless about their life purpose. They tend to pick random jobs and random activities. They're often always busy, but have really unclear outcomes.

MG: Mhmm.

ML: They tend to be just passing time and wasting energy. And at the end of the day, they're rarely fulfilled.

Next is a dualistic professional or a second stage professional. So this is someone who might be partially aware of their life purpose. Right? They've done some self discovery work. Maybe they're feeling a sense of meaning and connection to what they're doing. They probably have a satisfactory their personal life, they likely have strong extracurricular activities that allow them to be, as they say, who they really are when they're not at work.

MG: Mhmm.

ML: And they tend to be dualistic in that they split time between their real self and their work self. Right? They have compartmentalized energy. Here's who I am 9-to-5 when I'm on the job, and then here's who I really am after that when I'm not at work. Right?

MG: Mhmm.

ML: And so this type of person tends to be somewhat fulfilled at the end of the day.

Now the 3rd stage professional is what I like to call the masterful professional. So this is someone who is fully aware of their life purpose. And so their career or business is an exact extension of that life purpose. There's really no difference between their career and their life purpose. So what you tend to see is aligned activities and a very intentional use of time and energy. And at the end of the day, these are the people who are the most deeply fulfilled.

MG: I love this breakdown so much between frenetic professional, dualistic professional, and masterful professional. And what it immediately makes me think about is how it doesn't really matter how old you are and it doesn't really matter what your job title is, you can fall into any of these categories. Because I can definitely think of some executive level people that I've worked with…not quite executive…maybe just under executive or if we're talking a smaller company executive, I would say the bigger companies that when I've worked with people, executive level people are definitely more in the dualistic or mostly masterful professionals. But I have definitely worked with really high level, quote, unquote, leaders who are still in the frenetic phase. And similarly, yeah, I've worked with high level leaders that are in the dualistic phase. I've worked with, you know, very junior, new folks who are super green that I would call masterful professionals as well. And those people, by the way, tend to rise up the ranks really, really quickly because they're so in alignment with self and they're so, like, they're almost like a beam of light at work. Everybody is magnetized toward them because they're so deeply fulfilled in what they do and so aligned.

This is really fascinating because I don't know that I would have been able to break it down in this type of way. And I'm curious, because falling into these 3 categories, it doesn't really matter what your job title is or what level you are: What is it then that really makes us masterful and allows us to maybe up level into more of the executive realms? So what is the idea behind executive energy and how might this be different than normal energy?

ML: Mmm. So the idea of executive energy or executive presence is actually something that has been measured by human resource managers and Forbes Magazine. 51% of human resources practitioners say that executive energy is difficult to define, but 81% say it's easy to spot. Meaning that half of them say it's hard to explain it, because executive energy feels like an invisible power, and yet they know it when they see it, right? 81% of them say I know it when I see it.

So this term, executive energy, first became popularized in the boardroom in 2014 when author Sylvia Ann Hewlett released her book “Executive Presence.” Now recently, according to Forbes Magazine, executive presence or executive energy was defined as “your ability to inspire confidence.” Meaning inspiring confidence in your team that you're a leader worth following. Inspiring confidence in your peers that you're skilled and trustworthy, and inspiring confidence in senior decision makers that you've got the potential for great achievements. Now what was fascinating is Forbes Magazine did define 7 keys to executive presence.

So it was vision, number 1, your why.

Number 2 was perception, meaning your ability to make the right impression and understand how others see you.

3rd on the list was communication, meaning verbal, written, and body language.

4th was listening, your ability to be fully present, ask great questions, and invite feedback.

5th is networking, meaning your skills around relationship building and collaboration.

6 was composure, meaning your dignity, grace, honesty, and clear thinking in all kinds of circumstances.

And finally, appearance was number 7, meaning your ability to look the part of other leaders around you.

Now what I find fascinating is that all 7 of the ways that executive presence are judged, are qualitative, not quantitative. Meaning, your peers are sizing up your leadership or based on qualities about you or invisible energies rather than exclusively measurable credentials.

So things like your school name, your earnings track record, your years in the industry, the number of projects in your portfolio, blah, blah, blah, blah, are surprisingly not a final determinants your peers will use when they're looking at you and answering the question, “Why should I follow you?”

So, think of any leader that you really trust, meaning one that just, like, takes command of a room without even trying and earns their followers loyalty. So that right there is executive presence in action. And it might be hard to quantify, but you know it when you see it. So executive energy might be invisible, but certainly, it's palpable.

MG [00:49:56]: Oh, my goodness. I have chills again. And, oh, my goodness. I just have so many chills because you and I have talked so much about the invisible energy and invisible forces that surround us. And I just like, all these things are clicking into place for me. [both laugh] So thank you. But this is, yeah, this is so good, and this is so beautiful.

And I would suggest that this is inspiring or could be really inspiring for folks that are really interested in moving into leadership, but feel like they don't have the qualifications. Because truly, you know, the hard qualifications don't matter so much as the invisible energy that you put out. And so how might someone cultivate their invisible or executive energy and step into leadership that is conscious?

ML: Yeah. I think the real underlying question of conscious business is, How do you become a leader worth following?

MG: Yes.

ML: So there's 12 qualities that I've noticed of leaders who are worth following.

Number 1, executive energy.

Number 2, their leadership legacy.

Number 3, their personal authority.

Number 4, their ambition.

Number 5, their power.

Number 6, their prosperity.

Number 7, their rapport.

Number 8, their communication style.

Number 9, their ability to recognize opportunity.

Number 10, their talent at managing others.

Number 11, their ability to maintain balance in their own lifestyle.

And number 12, their understanding and intuition and strategy around timing career cycles.

MG: Oh, this is so good. What a list. I'm already like, okay, we have to have a whole another episode on just coaching around these things because there are so many things to pull out of here, so much gold.

But I'm curious, what changes in someone's life and business when they become aligned to executive energy archetypes? And are there any proven behavioral shifts or measurable results that show or demonstrate the legitimacy of this. So the legitimacy of energy archetypes in leadership.

ML: Mhmm. So you can actually use universal mathematics of yourself or of your business to get the answers to all 12 of those qualities of conscious leadership. You can find out using universal mathematics, your zone of genius, the goals that are gonna grow you in the right direction, how you can lead by example, what gives you power and can help you make an impact. You can actually find out your prosperity points. Right? Your marketplace value, your highest income activity, and your habits with money.

You can discover how to tap into authentic persuasion and all sorts of things based on the codes of your internal mathematics. So what I think when somebody follows their code, right, their cosmic corporate code, is I see that these executives start to really naturally fit into the role that people are seeking them out for intuitively. Because when you're in the correct zone of genius, it really links your life purpose to your executive energy.

I also find that these business people get really comfortable charging what they're worth. Meaning that they've often alchemized their worthiness wounds. They are knowledgeable about their prosperity points, and they really have learned to prioritize the highest income activities for them or for the energy of their business.

And I start to see, too. that they really know how to take charge and take risks and motivate others. And things that feel like challenges or delays actually transform into something that feels more like the courage to initiate and open different doors of opportunities for their unique leadership style.

And one of the biggest things that I hear from clients who have worked with me on cultivating their executive energy is that they finally have the confidence to overcome impostor syndrome. Meaning they really believe who they are is who they say they are. And they're super tapped into identifying the goals that are gonna grow them in the right direction and position themselves as an expert so that they can establish their leadership legacy.

And the reaction from other people around them is that all the sudden they start to notice other people are seeking their guidance and really respecting their opinion. And in negotiations and communication and presentation, I start to see a sense of authentic persuasion that really allows them to negotiate and navigate crucial conversations with integrity. Right? Because they know who they are, who they're meant to serve. They can create meaningful connections, and they can really easily get their point across.

I think in some, executives who tap into the energetics, most of all, their career becomes their calling.

So a few interesting examples of some executives who have tapped into their energetic archetypes and who also used the universal mathematics of cosmic cycles to calculate some of their business decisions is I went to this real estate client who made $23.2 million in real estate and was promoted to corporate vice president in the year that I had predicted 2 years prior would be his achievement cycle. I had told him that 2021 was going to make him more money than he ever had in his entire career and would win him a promotion. And 2 years later and $23.2 million later, it turned out to be accurate.

MG: That's amazing.

ML: [laughs] Yeah. Don't we all wish we had part of that $23.2 million?

MG: Yes. [both laugh]

ML: When is my achievement cycle coming?

MG: Oh, what a good question.

ML: Another example that I was really proud of was a gentleman who had done a year's worth of coaching with me and had multiple business endeavors both creatively and in more traditional areas. And by the end of the year of his coaching with me, he actually creatively became our city's highest paid DJ. He landed a magazine cover. And in a more traditional space, he got his broker's license and sold 3 multimillion dollar homes. And I was super proud of his ability to diversify and to succeed in multiple industry areas.

And, you know, when I do corporate team presentations and work with teams, I often find that it's the executive, the the CEO, who comes to me first for a private session, and then I tend to work with their group. And oftentimes, after the individual session with the CEO, many people immediately book sessions for their entire corporate team afterwards, which is really great because I love meeting the head honcho, and then I love meeting the team that makes their vision possible.

MG: Oh my goodness. This is incredible. I love everything about this. [laughs] Sorry. I'm laughing because I'm like, “Everybody should work with you. This is so amazing!”

Something that I really love that you said was, “the confidence overcoming imposter syndrome.” So I know I'm taking us back like a few statements, but I think that this is so cool. You said something to the effect of people begin to believe that who they are is who they really like, who they say they are is who they really are.

And I think that this is so incredible, because something that I work with a lot of my clients on is this impostor syndrome. I find that no matter what, no matter what level of their career they're in, especially when they up level or especially when they're promoted, they almost immediately feel like, “Oh my gosh. Do I deserve this? Should I actually be here? People are gonna find out that I'm faking it. People are gonna find out. I'm gonna get fired.” You know, like, it's like they spiral out immediately.

ML: Mhmm.

MG: But I do believe that there's something just so I don't know if I have the right word. Something so magnetic, and impactful, and real about when you are in alignment with yourself, you don't have that anymore because you know exactly who you are. And so you feel confident in every and every, any situation. There's both a level of confidence and humility. Right? Like, the arrogance is gone, and there's no faking it anymore. You know, like, the fake it till you make it is out the door. You're just like, nope. I am what I am. You get what you get, and that's also this really amazing being in front of you. Right?

ML: Well, also alignment is energetically interpreted as integrity.

MG: Mmmm I love this. This is something that I say occasionally. Say more here.

ML: So when our energy, our behaviors, our words, our choices, our use of time, and money, and effort are in alignment with something that feels central and true, the way that others energetically read that when they're receiving us is as integrity, right? Or integrated. Meaning something where the parts all perfectly fit together in a way that feels stable, trustworthy, true, and real.

MG: Oh, I love this. “The parts fit together in a way that is stable, trustworthy, real.” This is so good. This is something that I will say occasionally as well. This makes me so happy that you just said this because I always think about integrity and integrated as the same thing, right? When your thoughts, your beliefs, your emotions, your actions are all in alignment. And I love that added bit of when the thing that you're seeking or reaching for is in alignment too. It's like you are integrated and it's so beautiful because people can sense this. I think we have an uncanny ability as humans to sense integrity and authenticity. And when something is off, we know it right. We can feel it. Okay. I also love what you said. You said that your career becomes your calling.

ML [01:00:05]: Mhmm.

MG: This gave me chills. I think because so many of us reach for that. So many of us desire that. I think so many of us are afraid that we can't find that in the corporate space. And as you mentioned, you know, there are so many people that you've worked with professionally who were killing it by all standards, but were unfulfilled and unhappy. And so shifting career into calling sounds like a dream.

ML: Yeah. I feel like the difference between career and calling is the difference between a job and a vocation. A job is about employment, whereas a vocation is about devotion.

MG: Oof. Mmm. That's so good. I'm literally writing that down right now. [both laugh] So my word for 2024 was devotion, by the way. And so that, like, that hits me really big.

ML: Well, you are certainly in your devotion because your career, it is your calling, and the work that you put out there in the corporate world is really game changing. It's unique. It's one of a kind, and it blends the invisible world with the more traditional world at a time when our world is looking for something different. So you come off as filled with integrity, incredibly authentic, and it is very, very clear that you are aligned with your path.

MG: Oh my goodness. Thank you so much for saying that. That, it feels so good. Okay. Okay. One more question on this, and then I wanna talk about you. I wanna talk about how people can work with you.

So this is wild. And then the examples you gave is even wilder. Like real estate agent who made $23.2 million. That's amazing. And of course, of course, of course, of course, when CEOs book you and leaders book you, they're gonna want to book you for their entire team. Like, that makes total sense to me. And I'm thinking about every single person I know in corporate right now, and I'm like, okay. They need to have a session with you.

ML: I love you to book me out till the end of the year, Marie.

MG: Yes. Let's, like we'll do it right here, right now. Right? Everyone listening, book a session with Marielle before she's totally booked and slammed. I'm curious, like, is there a punch line for this?

ML: Yeah. Yeah. I think the punch line is if you've ever wondered questions like, “What is my calling and how do I succeed?” then understanding the executive energy archetypes and the universal mathematics of cosmic cycles will really help you hone your unique leadership style, increase your authenticity, and eradicate imposter syndrome. And that's what creates more confidence in yourself, your colleagues, and your customers.

MG: So. Much. Yes. What an incredible, what an unconventional, what a unique and amazing approach to…I don't even want to say executive coaching…because this is so much more than executive coaching. I can't even say astrology, because this is so much more than astrology. Just what an amazing service that you provide to the world and to your clients. How can people find you? How can they book you? What would you recommend if someone's not worked with you before? Give us the rundown.

ML: Well, if the topic of energetics for effective leadership and universal mathematics and energy is interesting to you, then definitely head over to my website because I have lots of free resources. I publish a monthly column. I have monthly videos. So there's lots of information at your disposal. So you can head on over to www.livesymbolik.com.

But if you're ready to take a step towards aligning your energy and integrating your life path, then I would love to see you either online or in person at my office for a life path discovery session. This is the first session that everybody does no matter who you are or no matter what you're wanting to do as a next step.

So, it's 90 minutes together, and it's based off of your unique mathematics. And we discover your life purpose, your relationship patterns, career opportunities, and we look at a schedule of destiny dates for the year ahead. So you will always know when your opportunity periods are coming and when your challenge periods are coming for the year ahead. So whether you wanna do more with me or whether you just want to have this one time experience, the life path discovery session is where everybody starts.

Now from there, most people enroll in my monthly cosmic coaching program. So that is continuous ongoing monthly guidance together for professional planning. And what we do in those professional planning sessions is I look at the mathematics for 30 days ahead in your life, meaning the entire month ahead. And I will outline for you what you can expect in business, in personal, and in energetic, and spiritual realms.

And then you'll get a 30 day calendar, so you will know what's gonna happen every single day of your life for the month ahead. So you can do all of your planning and know exactly what to do and hopefully be able to gracefully navigate any types of surprises that could come your way or for your business.

Now one of my favorite things to do is, of course, working with groups and teams. I also do corporate visioning sessions. So typically, we'll do either a half day or a full day, and we'll start with a group presentation about the energetics for effective leadership. And in that presentation, we'll cover 4 major leadership styles, the pros and cons of each of them, and how to verbalize and speak to each of the different leadership styles so you can learn how to get what you need and want out of other people on your team, probably who have different leadership styles than you. And then after our group work together, we break off for individual mini coaching sessions. So each individual member of the team gets about 20 to 30 minutes with me, and we do a quick overview of, again, life purpose, relating patterns, career opportunities, and key dates for them to be focused on for the year ahead.

And then at the end of the day, I always meet with the executive leader, and we do an executive review. So I will discuss how to position each person on the team to have the most success. Because one of the things that I do often see when I do the executive review is sometimes they've got people in the wrong positions. [laughs] So they might need to switch someone, you know, who's doing behind the scenes office work to switch them into more of a sales, you know, or forward facing position or vice versa. So we kind of realign the team, like, who needs to be where, and then we look at the key business cycles for the year ahead so their entire corporate team can kind of have a plan and know what they're gonna do and how they're gonna make money.

MG: This is incredible. I'm so excited for everyone to hear this and for anyone that wants to book with you. I highly recommend it. I'm even thinking right now, I'm like, “We should have another session.” So thank you so much, Maurielle. Let's do it. Let's do it.

ML: A business planning session!

MG: I'm so down. I'm so down. Thank you so much for joining us today. This means the world to me. You are an absolutely just incredible human being. So gifted, so talented, so regimented as well and so specific. Yeah. It's been such a joy.

ML: Marie, thank you for creating a space like this. Your service to the world is that you are bringing what people call the woo woo into the workplace and actually normalizing the phenomenon of mother nature and helping us to live in an integrated holistic way that makes ourselves and our teams, our employees, and our customers feel aligned and feel good and really make the products that we're putting out into the world far more purposeful. So what you're doing is game changing. Thank you for creating this space where we can discuss these incredibly important issues, And I just absolutely admire you, and I'm so honored to be one of the people that you'd invite into the discussion.

MG: Mmmm 🥹 Thank you so much!

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In this Woo Woo at Work episode, we dive into universal mathematics and learn how to align our work with the cosmos with the guidance of Maurielle Laurenne.

Maurielle is a Cosmic Coach who combines Astrology + Quantum Physics with Behavioral Psychology + Executive Coaching to guide professionals on how to make better decisions by being in alignment with their unique energy patterns. For the past decade, she’s guided over 987+ coaching clients while working with CEOs, entrepreneurs, high-performance athletes, and beyond.

Join us in asking “how do you become a leader worth following?” as we discuss strategic planning, astrological and mathematical timing, corporate rhythms, executive presence, and more.

References:

Maurielle Laurenne https://www.livesymbolik.com/
Life Path Services https://www.livesymbolik.com/life-path-services
Cosmic Coaching https://www.livesymbolik.com/cosmic-coaching
Sylvia Ann Hewlett’s book “Executive Presence” https://www.sylviaannhewlett.com/books

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